"I really like that these are not super tight above the knee yet they seem to hold up (band below the knee). A smart design and very cute. I got them in both colors and like them both. Somehow the beige ones seem slightly shorter than the grey ones? Anyways I am happy with my buy and wish they came in more colors. I liked some of the other fabrics for knee socks better but most seem to be too tight above my knees and I don't like the sausage look."